Time to get heavy, and to revel in the evils of amplification and distortion – there is nothing so spiritual!
Basic introspective power trio jazz-metal sceance.
Love the wildness of this.
- I like to get out there as far as I can without getting 'too' incomprehensible!
nicely out dere!
have you been talking to my Mom?
: Yeah - don't forget to brush your teeth too!
: why? I happen to like the moss between my fangs l,l,l
Jimi would be proud of those tones you're getting here.
- that's such a massive compliment because I'm one of those who believes that Jimi was the ultimate in all things guitar - and always will be ...
A fine journey, sir. You hit something dead right.
If an 80s video game machine had a psychedelic freakout, this would be it!
: Like that elision of decades 60s - 70s - 80s - 10s - and its all a game, ultimately
The bass really makes this work and wander and get lost in the right ways.
: The bass is the key to the architecture and is, I suppose an homage to Mr Kilmister's Space Ritual work outs
: It's immodest to make these comparisons, I know, and it's all very well to do 10 minutes of something like this - but to blaze through a whole gig, that's something else [especially with Stacia out front]
: After playing amidst spectacle, you get honestly oblivious to it!
Of all things, a latter-day Zappa conducting Beefheart comes to mind in all his crazy "I'm on TV" conductor posing.
: That's such a good image - I probably get more Zappa mentions than anything else, although I'm only well versed in one or two of his works, but his whole endeavour crystallizes what it means to experiment within 'rock', and his importance has probably yet to be fully evaluated. I suspect he will be seen in the future as a parallel figure with Miles Davis, Sun Ra, Stockhausen ... and where do you begin with Beefheart who went into the desert to be a painter in his final days ... such a great culture to live through ...
: Zappa as funny as it sounds I have a mixed heart about - as much as I love some of it, I cursed him for the first couple decades as a musician for condemning anything weird as some sort of novelty act. And for me, he was magical when the right band emerged- the Ike Willis period stuff is phenomenal, as he's still not being Mr. Conductor so much as "I'm here in the band"
: Really interesting evaluation of Zappa, Robert. I wasn't sure whether a lot of his stuff was American humour that I wouldn't understand. But when he just "shuts up to play his guitar", I obviously get that, and think its great.
: A lot is inside jokes, and very juvenile humor - he was a genius, to be sure, and they all have their quirks, it's just that everyone who followed suddenly got consigned to the novelty bin. He had a heck of a knack for finding talent though - from the original "when it was still the *band* Alice Cooper (versus the man)" album of weird that's still flooring, to the late 70s incarnation of his band. The stuff they could do ...the only thing that deeply saddened me is he didn't seem to get (or want) going beyond - it was so scripted that I wonder what he missed out on.
: I agree about the early Alice Cooper - really good band, and the first albums were excellent - but it seems that most of his proteges objected strongly to the way he wanted to portray them
: Yea, he was a control freak to be sure, yet despised it when people did it to him. For the proteges, Frank was just looking for a quick cashout - no different than any other business dued. He saw a market in "accessible weird" but wouldn't let it compete with his own niche.
hauntingly cool!
Really cool sounds. Awesome job
always painting, you are.
now that's a good move, signal chain-wise.
wow. very keeningly vocal.
: Headless guitar again - Hohner G3T - does the job if you want singing molten slag!
something molten this way comes. can i have the slag?
: You've got it!
they are purring tonight
: Even lions can purrrrr
oh that was overdue! like i just went to the chiropractor/hypnotist/float tank(!) uh centre
: Float tank? - now you've got me thinking
just an electricacoustic massage
hello funkyphatsound
gawshdarn
: elephant just trod on my room!
all men play on 10
: Most amps only go up to 10, but these ... these go up to 11 .... no, they go up to 11 ... see?
:) I lost a chunk of hearing seeing Manowar in Colston Hall in the early eighties. .but still love em
: Tough being a Metal guitarist in the 80s - you were pretty busy - 8 hours of speed guitar exercises, four hours of weight lifting, 20 hours in the hairdressers ... and then there was the make up! No, I love those guys, it was all tongue in cheek ...
whoa! you gotta explain! like Vinnie Vincent, dude
: wish I could play like Vinnie man! Just rapid picking and slide through an arpeggiator - giving away my secrets!
: Aah! What a cool trick nonetheless
: Yeah - ends justifying means - the fact it doesn't sound like an arpeggiator is due to the overwhelming guitaristic nature of rapid picking with a metal pick on an Epiphone V with Iron Gear Metal Machine pickups and using slide like Sonny Sharrock would -
wtf? pick taps?
some really nice bass lurking in the shadows
: Yeah the bass is the contrast - the guitars are massed: the bass roams and growls alone like a lion in the Roman arena - that's what I wanted - the experiment was - 1) how to mass distorted guitars 2) how to have the bass heard through the mass and mesh of guitars - so the bass had to have sufficient bottom and top! Well, Lemmy with Hawkwind would be the model in the Space Ritual era - toal wall of sound, and yet the bass stands out like a jewel in the crown
majestic spiralling cacophony!
: There's 'only' four guitars there - an Epiphone Flying V [twice], a Hohner G3T [headless] and a Gibson LP [submerged] - but I doubled each track, and then put various filters on the doubles. I ten took the final master and added again the four guitars, this time very very slightly out of synch with the master - just looking to create that enveloping sense - of course, you have to be careful with this, you start to lose sound, rather than gain - makes one appreciate the genius of organisation that is the full orchestra ... but *we* are working with distortion ... that's the difference - easier with purer sounds ... very hard to build with distortion - that's when you start to realise how great Iommi is.
: I know. .Iommi was the master..notes, tone, feel
: And texture, girth, depth, power - and to have that stentorian type of strict metal guitar, but always an underlying blues thing, with that lolling bass of Geezer - that made it - that fascinates me - how the British Blues bands of the 60s created a dark minor blues riffing that went on to create metal itself - it's there on Mayall's Hard Road, and it develops in Free and in early Sabbath - and how Iommi creates that orchestral metal guitar sound through the first four Sabbath albums - Master of Reality is the point where it sounds really right to me ... Into the Void ... that is Blues, man!
nice to see you adopting Slade-esque spelling in the title!
: Wot!?! It was meant as a nod to Genesis P Orridge, but then like you, I thought of Slade - what stonking little band they were!
You had me at hello.
: first greeting from the bass
A brilliant cacophony of overdriven mayhem!
Sometimes I need to do something totally OTT, but still with the trademark probing, searching, experimenting [hopefully]
There's a storm acoming!
: Yeah, the various overlapping and shifting overdrive dyads gave me the image of gathering storm clouds, variously monochromal, and massing in the sky a determined army; so the title came from that
i like the bass
: Yeah, it's the Epiphone Thunderbird - such a joy to play. I wanted to get all the bottom that such a bass can muster, but with the attack sitting near the top of the mix. The track was originally the bass and a heavy guitar, that was all. I revisited it, adding the drums and two extra guitar layers. But I didn't want to lose the bass, I wanted keep that central
and fascinating counterpoints!
- I'm always interested in how different things which shouldn't go together, *can* go together, and not sound too different, but just give that slight jolt ... what was that? Did I hear that right? But could also be heard as being 'right'.
Yes, the homogeneity is striking, given how diverse the elements are
Great rhythm layering!
- It's exploratory, like painting - combining colours and rhythms to create another sound, another beat. If I don't like it, I scrub it out - otherwise I keep it. No rules.
: You have quite impressive non-rules
: Therein lurks the contradiction - no-rule is my rule!
whoa!
: Things are going to get hairy!
distortion!
: It's like scumbling, layering paint and blurring it - there has to a texture to distortion, a colour, a depth, to satisfy my ear. I hate Black Metal distortion, that shrill buzz saw - I'm not putting it down, but it is not a colour I want on my palette
Nice and wicked! Great one!
: If we all put our wickedness into art and not on the street the world might be a better place - the art is certainly better when its evil!
lyrics
Storms Ov Steel
Can flesh and bone withstand
Storms of steel?
Can wounds, unstaunched
Forever bleed,
And never heal?
credits
from Fountains of the Deep,
released December 27, 2017
Bill Boethius, guitars, bass and drum machine.
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